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steamgranny
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 Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 10:08 pm Post subject: What do I do with this one?? |
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This wasn't exactly planned but yet another one has just entered the stable - a Luton Bowman PW203.
Complete with cobwebs & very rusty old water in boiler 
It's all there but pics tell the story & am scratching my head over what is best course of action with this one. Final decisions will probably be made after complete dismantle & clean off but paint is peeling off as I look at it.........
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IndianaRog
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Bit of dusting and cleaning ahead for you SG...but nothing you can't handle. Sides might need to be banged back into shape, an easy job once detached and appropriate blocks of wood and a mallet are wielded with care.
I think you are hooked on restoration!!!
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I would personally go for a full restoration. It's pretty rusty I must say. Not without it's potential though 
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Chris
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Looks complete.
I think you need a "V" of thin metal under the burner to act as a prop...
http://s177.photobucket.com/album...¤t=IMG_0618_smaller.jpg
This is soldiered onto each of the burner tubes, although it has come off one of mine, so is only attached to one tube now.
I had a rather spectacular fire the first time I fired mine up, had a leak or two in the meths tank, so check for that.
I found that I couldn't get the safety valve apart, then I found that the nut at the bottom of it was soldiered on, so I melted that and got it off, but ruined the safety valve spring in the process. No bother, just replaced the spring with a spare mamod one. I think I put an o-ring on the safety valve to make it seal better.
They are great runners, very powerful. Need holding down though else they walk off the table.
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| I'd go for a complete restoration and repaint. It'll look great! Your collection is growing fast! How many is that? |
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steamgranny
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| IndianaRog wrote: | Bit of dusting and cleaning ahead for you SG...but nothing you can't handle. Sides might need to be banged back into shape, an easy job once detached and appropriate blocks of wood and a mallet are wielded with care.
I think you are hooked on restoration!!!
Rog |
Hmmmm..........this was never meant to happen but think you are right! Certainly beats house-cleaning but just don't come visit anytime soon 
You seem more confident in my abilities than I am And am eyeing that battered firebox with some trepidation & not sure I should be let loose with a mallett |
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| Chris wrote: | Looks complete.
I think you need a "V" of thin metal under the burner to act as a prop...
http://s177.photobucket.com/album...¤t=IMG_0618_smaller.jpg
This is soldiered onto each of the burner tubes, although it has come off one of mine, so is only attached to one tube now.
I had a rather spectacular fire the first time I fired mine up, had a leak or two in the meths tank, so check for that.
I found that I couldn't get the safety valve apart, then I found that the nut at the bottom of it was soldiered on, so I melted that and got it off, but ruined the safety valve spring in the process. No bother, just replaced the spring with a spare mamod one. I think I put an o-ring on the safety valve to make it seal better.
They are great runners, very powerful. Need holding down though else they walk off the table. |
Thanks for the tips & have seen that 'V' on other burners. But I've also seen PW203 burners with tiny cross slits versus this type with big, staggered slits. Another manufacturing change or quirk, I suppose.
Do you mean SV nut was soldered on originally or that someone else had possibly done it at some point? Can't think that SV spring is in very good shape, considering rusty water that dribbled out of whistle, so hardly looking to preserve it if confronted with same problem.
Might be a while before this one runs & gallops off table, though |
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It sure looks like it would be worth the effort, I see a jewel in the rough.
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MM, Steve-S, yep, it certainly looks as though full restoration is only path.
Thankfully everything is there & seems sound.
'How many is that?'.........Urmmm.......too many Lets see, I'm losing count, they are coming so thick & fast 6 oldies plus a 'bargain' Mamod SP5, the new Wilesco D3 & a scratch-built that hasn't been formally presented 'in public' yet because I need gas poker to fire it & haven't solved that problem so far. But it's got to stop because I've completely run out of space & they are beginning to stack up
Still extremely modest compared to GJ's amazing, burgeoning tally |
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I do like the Luton Bowmans! they do have a nice look about them  . This one should restore up a treat.
You have a great collection now SG! Nice to hear you are adding to it 
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steamgranny
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| johnreid wrote: | | ........... a jewel in the rough. |
That's a polite & poetic way of describing this pile of rust |
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steamgranny
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| steamgranny wrote: |
Do you mean SV nut was soldered on originally or that someone else had possibly done it at some point? |
Don't bother answering that Chris, as I've just found old thread discussing this & yes, they are soldered on That is going to be fun.........   |
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Mister Occlusion
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Doesn't look like there's much of the original finish worth salvaging, eh?
But if it's all there you've got a good starting point to bang, scrape, polish and paint.
I've been watching for Bowman's in NA, but so far they seem pretty rare to find, and even rarer to not find in pieces and missing pieces..
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Great find S-J
In many respects, engines like this are easier to deal with you. In this state you know you have to rennovate as there really isn't much of the original finish to conserve.
I reckon you will find it really satisfying. good luck with it. |
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