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Cranko


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice engine SG, you'll enjoy restoring it
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oooh. That`s got great potential!

Good luck with it.... Enjoy!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Do you mean SV nut was soldered on originally or that someone else had possibly done it at some point?


Don't bother answering that Chris, as I've just found old thread discussing this & yes, they are soldered on That is going to be fun.........


Oh good. It took me ages working out it was solder and not just scale. I didn't have a blowtorch at the time so I discovered it by holding it over the flame of the gas hob. In the end I used a lighter with a jet flame to get it off.

They are very powerful engines. I've left mine fairly tatty as I've not yet worked up the enthusiasm to polish everything! I expect mine will need a few more running repairs though, mainly to the burner. I am thinking of getting a different burner (maybe a bowman repro) for it when I am running the engine and just keep the original for display. You will probably notice the wick furthest from the meths tank burns and chars very easily. I think those burners with the little slots are probably somewhat better than the ones we have.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

a full restore is the order of the day for this one and we are sure its in the right hands to do a grand job
looking forward to the results
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will look a treat when finished SG.

It will need a full resto , and the firebox will straighten out without a problem.

These engines really look great when they are restored and I can't think of anyone more suited to the job.

I'm looking forward to seeing this one finished.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Certainly the firebox and the engine mount needs repainting and I'm guessing the base will probably need it too. I guess once you get it apart and clean it you can decide whether to paint the base.
Be careful with the firebox as being made of aluminium they are easy to dent.

But with a bit of effort that should come up lovely.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Basically what you have there is a marvellously complete 203.....the burner is so often lost! It also looks structurally very sound. Apart from the somewhat thin firebox, they are VERY well built engines, and they run like the devil!

I think a full cleanup and restore is in order, but I think it would be worth your while trying to preserve the decal.

The paint on the underside of your base seems to have darkened a little, but the nearest thing to the right colour is sold as Ford Highland Green. The engine support and flywheel centre should be a dark red, and the firebox is crackle finish black.

A fantastic find, and a very worthy addition to your collection....you'll love that one!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the tips & encouragements. Apart from dismantling, I suspect repaint/rebuild will be put off until after a visit to UK, especially to acquire such items as 'Ford Highland Green' paint & other vital steam requisites
Will certainly do my utmost to retain decal & not sure I can reproduce the crackle finish firebox but will cogitate all of this & consult everything I can find on subject before proceeding. Therefore, don't expect any triumphant first-steaming videos just yet
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

steamgranny wrote:
not sure I can reproduce the crackle finish firebox but will cogitate all of this & consult everything I can find on subject before proceeding. Therefore, don't expect any triumphant first-steaming videos just yet


I know in Australia you can buy a crackle black spray paint from automotive shops that is heat resistant so I'm guessing you should be able to get a similar product too.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The PW203 is now in bits. All the brass work is fine, although there was brief alarm when I found 2 nasty corrosion spots on boiler cap but they wire-wooled off, leaving sound brass underneath.
I don't seem to have a crackle finish firebox & this one was gloss black:



But the lazy so & so's didn't paint the inside



The aluminum is so soft I can bend it with fingers.

And this is the base after gentle, wash off & don't think we can leave that 'as is', can we? Those rivets appear different too.........

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No the base will need repainting if it is to survive another 60 years.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, defo a full base resto there.

A little tip. When painting the base to keep the rivets clear, mask them by popping a small screw through them.

I found the ones used for securing computer motherboards were perfect.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sandman wrote:
Yep, defo a full base resto there.

A little tip. When painting the base to keep the rivets clear, mask them by popping a small screw through them.

I found the ones used for securing computer motherboards were perfect.


I use blu-tac on what I don't want to get paint on. For those that don't know what blu-tac is it's the stuff you use for holding posters up on the wall. I'm sure its called different stuff in other countries.
I love it for fiddly bits to protect as its sticky so stays in place and you can shape it to what ever shape you need.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blue tac it is in Kiwi land as well
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Revived this old thread so you can refer to 'before' pics at beginning & bet most had forgotten about this one, it's been so long  
True, I had to make a round trip to UK for paint  
Tried to preserve logo but gave up & also removed rivets because  base really needed an extremely thorough rub down. Hoped to be presenting it earlier but discovered a seriously blocked steam pipe that no amount of hot vinegar baths or more serious stuff would unblock, so had to change it.
Finally, the Luton Bowman PW203  :





First test run today, although it's burner got water-logged & had to use another. A few leaks & other minor stuff to be dealt with but essentially it runs  

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