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Wallace
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Joined: 19 Jul 2006 Posts: 11146 Location: New South Wales, Australia
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:08 am Post subject: 46 SE1 Full resto |
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Got this SE1 a little while back.
Unfortunately it does require a full repaint, as the base has very severe rusting on it. It's a shame to lose the pre war decal
Sometime in it's life it had the exhaust soldered to the chimney, lost a pulley, and steam pipe broke off the engine.
Due to the high humidity here, I have to wait to repaint it.
But so far success.
* The end cap nearest Chimney looks like it has been resoldered. So pressure tested to between 30 and 40psi, and all is well.
* Safety valve came out without breaking the collar, despite using vise grips
* Exhause pipe to chimney came off easily
* Soldered the steam pipe back on without damaging the paint. Just tinned the pipe and used what solder was alreay on there. Hardest part was getting the heat up, but not too much so as the exhaust would desolder. Solid block of brass sure do take some heating for solder to melt
Will put more pics up as I do the resto  _________________
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Cranko
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Joined: 03 Aug 2007 Posts: 3217 Location: new Zealand
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:44 am Post subject: |
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Pity you will loose the decal, does some body do a copy for this model  |
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mj
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:01 am Post subject: |
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Having seen some of the UK's finest collections of mamods on show at Kempton earlier this year, the one thing that stood out is that none of the engines were over restored or highly polished. They were clean & well cared for but original paint was abundant, even if a little rusty. Don't be too hasty with the repaint
Clean back the flaking paint & carefully use rust inhibitor & you'd keep what's left of the decal. The base would look fine & retain it's originality & value. Once repainted there's no going back.
But that's just my personal view, i've learnt by jumping in with both feet & repainting a couple of engines & later regretting it. Perfectly smooth paintwork & shiny brass isn't everything when it comes to engines as rare desirable as this one.  |
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Steve_S
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Joined: 26 Aug 2006 Posts: 3212 Location: Leeds UK
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Nice engine Wallace! It's in that in-between-state where there's plenty of original paint, but, as you say, there's also plenty of rust. I think I'd be tempted to try what Mike suggests first, but I'm sure it'll look great whatever you do! |
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MamodFan
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Joined: 23 Nov 2006 Posts: 840
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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| mj wrote: | Having seen some of the UK's finest collections of mamods on show at Kempton earlier this year, the one thing that stood out is that none of the engines were over restored or highly polished. They were clean & well cared for but original paint was abundant, even if a little rusty. Don't be too hasty with the repaint
Clean back the flaking paint & carefully use rust inhibitor & you'd keep what's left of the decal. The base would look fine & retain it's originality & value. Once repainted there's no going back.
But that's just my personal view, i've learnt by jumping in with both feet & repainting a couple of engines & later regretting it. Perfectly smooth paintwork & shiny brass isn't everything when it comes to engines as rare desirable as this one.  |
spot on  _________________ www.mfsteam.com the home of the MFtwin and replacement spares for Bowman, Cyldon and Mamod Steam Engines
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johnreid
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Joined: 06 Sep 2007 Posts: 10634 Location: Friendship Indiana, USA
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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It sure looks like a fun one you have there, I hope you give it a good running too. _________________ Your life is an occasion...Rise to it |
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Mamodman123
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Joined: 19 Jul 2006 Posts: 31222 Location: Midlands, UK
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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We could sit here and argue on whether to restore or not all night but personally I would restore, if the decal was perfect i'd leave it but given as Wallace lives in a "salty" area it won't be long before thats a pile of rust....
If i had a car that was full of rust and falling apart i'd do something about it.... (James don't even think about it)  _________________ Solid Fuel tablets explode
You could get a nice flatbase for that
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MamodFan
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Mamodman123 wrote: | We could sit here and argue on whether to restore or not all night but personally I would restore, if the decal was perfect i'd leave it but given as Wallace lives in a "salty" area it won't be long before thats a pile of rust....
If i had a car that was full of rust and falling apart i'd do something about it.... (James don't even think about it)  |
There's to much paint left on it, all that need to be done is to remove the loose rust carefully and a wipe over with the oily rag will restore the charm of this engine without destroying all of its character.
cars are a different matter _________________ www.mfsteam.com the home of the MFtwin and replacement spares for Bowman, Cyldon and Mamod Steam Engines
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Graham-Jilly
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Joined: 04 Mar 2007 Posts: 4199 Location: Brisbane Qld Australia
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Cranko wrote: | Pity you will loose the decal, does some body do a copy for this model  |
contact flywheel he can help you out  _________________
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mc_mc
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Joined: 13 Jan 2007 Posts: 1734 Location: Milton Keynes
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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I saw the picture and was immediately thinking that paint's not too bad. You've got more decal left than what's on mine.
I'd say treat the rust now and wait a few years and see what happens. You can always strip it down and repaint it later.
But you paid for it, so it's yours to do with as you like of course!  |
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Graham-Jilly
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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well we have to repaint ours as some one decided it needed a black base  _________________
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MamodFan
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Graham-Jilly wrote: | well we have to repaint ours as some one decided it needed a black base  |
i agree with a repaint in that situation but its not like this engine is going to rust away, its not a Rover Metro after all. _________________ www.mfsteam.com the home of the MFtwin and replacement spares for Bowman, Cyldon and Mamod Steam Engines
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Mamodman123
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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| MamodFan wrote: | | Mamodman123 wrote: | We could sit here and argue on whether to restore or not all night but personally I would restore, if the decal was perfect i'd leave it but given as Wallace lives in a "salty" area it won't be long before thats a pile of rust....
If i had a car that was full of rust and falling apart i'd do something about it.... (James don't even think about it)  |
There's to much paint left on it, all that need to be done is to remove the loose rust carefully and a wipe over with the oily rag will restore the charm of this engine without destroying all of its character.
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don't get me wrong ive kept rustier engines.....
I would probably repaint that one though  _________________ Solid Fuel tablets explode
You could get a nice flatbase for that
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flywheel61
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Joined: 12 Nov 2006 Posts: 2560 Location: australia
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 12:22 am Post subject: |
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Pity about the decal, but knowing your seaside town, salt laden air & high humidity, it would be at least twice as bad in a year, I don't think you've got any choice but to repaint, . I once got a similar engine where thet seller had masked off the decal and then repainted the base, it looked indented, terrible job.
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johnreid
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 12:34 am Post subject: |
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Oh heck if the salt air is such a problem, I would gladly store it for you here where there is no salt spray. I would even run it now and then and send you videos so you could enjoy watching it.  _________________ Your life is an occasion...Rise to it |
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