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redryder


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bessytractor wrote:
that is awesome, do you have a film of it going?


Right here:

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=reddrryder&sitesearch=

Somewhere in there you will find a couple clips of it.
Disregard the noise. The engine is silent.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like that a lot
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 1:21 am    Post subject: help from the UK Reply with quote

Hi all,

I am looking for a bit of info.
Shortly before I began collecting steam engines and in the course of online research about them,
I came across a UK site that I was believe was tied to one of your many steam power museums.
It described the longest running engine known to man. I believe it may have been in a pumping station.
I remember reading that it had been running 24/7 from 1800-1951 when it was retired from service.
I don't believe that mankind has ever built another type of motive power that worked continously for 151 years.
I would like someone to point me back to that website so I can save it and learn more about it.
This is an amazing feat and the rock solid reliability of the over built steam plants of days long gone
are among the main attractions to me, offered by steam power.

Thanks in advance,

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking, getting close, a cited site is down, but from Google's cache,
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...The longest running steam engine clocked 150years pumping canal water in England.
Click your wikipedia to Crofton pump ................really large beam type
steam engine.


looking for more...

can this be it?  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crofton_Pumping_Station
1812, then, not 1801, though the article makes all very clear.

and links to this:
http://www.croftonbeamengines.org/intro.html

which!    leads to this
http://www.croftonbeamengines.org/tour.html


it's all so good; they have some small engines on display as well,
added to their collection by donation

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Gardiner Overcrank Engine

Built by Gardiner's in Kent at around 1840, this engine has a bore of 7.5 inches (190mm) and a stroke of 16.5 inches (420mm) and probably produced about 2hp (1.5kW). Sold second hand to Elmer's Mill, Woolpit in 1850, it was in service until the 1940's. The original drive was by rope around the flywheel, but this was later converted to a flat belt. There is a boiler feed pump at the rear of the engine. It was bought for Crofton by Mr R. Corbett of Alresford in 1971.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reid wrote:
Looking, getting close, a cited site is down, but from Google's cache,
Quote:
...The longest running steam engine clocked 150years pumping canal water in England.
Click your wikipedia to Crofton pump ................really large beam type
steam engine.


looking for more...

can this be it?  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crofton_Pumping_Station
1812, then, not 1801, though the article makes all very clear.

and links to this:
http://www.croftonbeamengines.org/intro.html

which!    leads to this
http://www.croftonbeamengines.org/tour.html


it's all so good; they have some small engines on display as well,
added to their collection by donation

Quote:
Gardiner Overcrank Engine

Built by Gardiner's in Kent at around 1840, this engine has a bore of 7.5 inches (190mm) and a stroke of 16.5 inches (420mm) and probably produced about 2hp (1.5kW). Sold second hand to Elmer's Mill, Woolpit in 1850, it was in service until the 1940's. The original drive was by rope around the flywheel, but this was later converted to a flat belt. There is a boiler feed pump at the rear of the engine. It was bought for Crofton by Mr R. Corbett of Alresford in 1971.


The Crofton engines are still pumping water. Not 24/7, sadly, but they have steaming days several times a year. The two engines are different ages but both old.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Roly Williams The Crofton engines are still pumping water. Not 24/7, sadly, but they have steaming days several times a year. The two engines are different ages but both old.[/quote]

Have you been there Roly- not far from you.

I have once, v interesting, its importance to the canal system at the time was immense.

Theres a similar pumping set up at Claverton near Bath, not steam but water powered, and doing similar function of pumping water up into the canal. Have been there a few times.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Atticman wrote:
Roly Williams wrote:
The Crofton engines are still pumping water. Not 24/7, sadly, but they have steaming days several times a year. The two engines are different ages but both old.


Have you been there Roly- not far from you.

I have once, v interesting, its importance to the canal system at the time was immense.

Theres a similar pumping set up at Claverton near Bath, not steam but water powered, and doing similar function of pumping water up into the canal. Have been there a few times.


Yes, I've seen the Crofton engines working - very impressive.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

visited Crofton when me and my family took our boat up the Kennet and Avon Canal this summer. Excellent place, they even have a big stationary oscillating engine!
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive not got to Crofton yet. Hopefully will next year though. Doing the Kennet Avon Canal on a narrow boat REALY LOOKIN FORWARD TO IT-Love canals!

Been to Claverton several times though.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 2:03 am    Post subject: fine Cretors full scale model Reply with quote

Here is one of the nicest full scale Cretors replicas I have seen. This one was built by
David Townsend (Townsend Engine Works) about 15 years years back.

The Owls Head Museum commissioned him to build it so they could present it to one of their
board members (Steve Lang). Some years later, upon his retirement from the board,
he donated it back to the museum and they auctioned it off several years ago to a friend of mine
who I acquired it from. My friend added the valve, whistle, gauge, lubricator, and pin stripes.
While I do have several original Cretors popcorn wagon engines in my collection, this replica is
one of my favorites. The castings were supplied by Paul Breisch.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice.
There have been a couple of them on ebay US recently in varying conditions but both of them out of my price range.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 8:18 pm    Post subject: A little gas Reply with quote

Here is a fine 1/2 scale model of the 2 hp Vaughn sideshaft gas engine. Debolt supplied this as a ready to run highly finished engine, as a mechanics kit (all machine work done and you paint and do final assembly, and as a kit of raw castings. This is serial #1003 which makes it the 3rd complete finished engine presented by the maker. The 2000 serial numbers were applied to those sold as mechanics kits and the 3000 serial numbers were assigned to those sold as raw castings. All three series added up equal about 300 total engines of this style. They no longer produce them and as with all of Debolt's engines, once they are sold out, that is all and the patterns are permanently retired. This engine runs like a Swiss watch, starts easily, and is a joy to watch. In the spring I hope to make a video of it. It is a hit and miss and can be adjusted to slow down to near stopped before it fires again.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 8:35 pm    Post subject: more gas Reply with quote

Here is another hit and miss gas engine model. In this picture near the bottom is a 1/3 scale model of a 5 hp Galloway. Castings by Dick Shelley (still available) and the engine built by Bruce Moyer. This too runs like a Swiss watch and starts easy. It has a very nice scaled down igniter and the low tension coil and battery rest in the wood box on the skids behind the engine.

Also are several steam pieces and an important part of my collection. These are the Sipp engines, the ones with the square cylinder lagging and the ornately shaped cast iron bases. You can see the 2 larger 1/2 horsepower steam engines, a vertcle 1/4 hp (round cylinder block) and 3 of the horizontal 1/4 hp Sipp engines.
The dark red 1/2 hp piece is now on display in a friend's collection. I sold it to him on the condition that if he ever lets it go I can buy it back. That one was all rust when I got it but had no wear on it as it had never been used. I also have another 1/4 hp horizontal Sipp that powers an A.G. MacDonell stand organ which you may have seen in my videos. Grant Sipp sold the Sipps to Fedders, Strelinger, and several other suppliers who were like the WW Grainger of their day. All of these are pictured in the 1895 catalog that I have a copy of. Back then, for the 1/2 hp horizontal he got $12 for the castings and $50 for a complete ready to run engine. Sipp was also successor to G.E. Wright and A.J. Weed. I have several A.J. Weed engines as well.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 9:01 pm    Post subject: 1 hp verticle Sipp Reply with quote

Here is the cornerstone of my Sipp collection. It is the rarest of them all by far. In all the steam
shows I have attended and with all my collector friends more experienced than me, we have
only seen one of these 1 hp verticle Sipps and this is it. We all knew it existed as we have copies
of the 1895 catalog. I was like a kid at Christmas when I found it in a trailer full of goodies for sale at
a large gas engine show. The seller thought it was something completely different and I was
not going to argue with him. I kept my mouth shut. He wanted a lot more than I was willing to
part with but as luck would have it, he spent a fortune their on a very rare sideshaft gas engine,
followed by a hale storm with thunder and 50 mile an hour gale at around 2 pm and 3/4 of the
show packed up and left. He was still packing and I walked back over and told him what I could
afford and about 10 minutes later I walked off with the engine. It had a hideous paint job
comprising of black, bright snot green, gold spray paint, and red. The first thing I did upon arriving
home was coat the thing in zip strip, wait 15 minutes and attack it with a pressure washer. When
the paint was gone I applied a sealer to the bare cast iron to allow putting it away for paint work in the
not so near future. That was two years ago. I like it so much in raw iron that I decided early on to
leave it just as you see it in the pictures. I took these while running on live steam at
George King's invitation only steam show in Connecticut farm country.

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I am beyond words, and that is rare for me.
Awestruck.
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