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Mamodman123


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I would have done is solder the pipe off the block at the engine frame then solder the pipe in the boiler so you've got no weight pulling it down.

If you have solder flowing everywhere then you're either applying too much heat or there is too much solder. If you need to do it again apply the heat to the pipe instead of the joint  . That way it shouldn't be blasted back to the stone age  

If its soldered now though leave it well alone  

Coming along nicely  
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

erikl wrote:
did some more work today.
Curing of the chrome sides wend perfect, did it one hour at 50 degrees, one hour at 75 and one hour at 100, and it didn't burn away

bad news is that the soldering of the pipe to the boiler didn't go very well once more I screwed up the soldering job

here it is:


All I did is put some flux around the pipe, and heat the old solder that was already there, but still it managed to flow somewhere where it shouldn't go   . This realy sucks, I realy hate these soldering jobs   , how could I have prevented this?  I can't think of any other way  

so now I have to sand it down with fine sanding paper (the only shop that sells it around here just closed, all the big shops only have 400 as the finest grade). I'm also out of brasso now (think my other canbs are in the self storage box) so it might take a while after all to get this one finished

by the way, this was my setup:

my parents garage realy need some decent tools to secure something like this.
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oh don't worry the tools your using are the right ones  

this is looking really good.  I'm sure when you steam up it will run fine.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you been able to work on this, or are you busy with your new home?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nick wrote:
Have you been able to work on this, or are you busy with your new home?


Still busy with the home (http://modelsteam.myfreeforum.org/about10212.html) so it'll have to wait for a while, until I get my workstop finished.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If only you could restore it as fast as you can paint.                      
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

looking good.
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, it's time to start cracking on this one again
First thing to do is to clean up the soldering on the boiler:



Any hints how to do this? I already did heat it and used wirewool to get the worst off from it. I think I now got to use wet and dry paper like it did on this one, but what grades should I use? Can't remember what I used there
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Wallace


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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Erik.

I use a 1000 grade Wet and dry (but use it as wet) and wrap it round a small bit of squared off wood. This gets the majority off

Then I finish with 1200grade.

Hope that helps  
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, I'll get some of those than. I think I have to go to the city for it, in the normal stores they only sell 400 as the finest grade  
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Places that sell Auto Body supplies will have the finer grit sandpaper, That is where I get the 2000 grit which I have used to polish the few guitars that I have built. Never sand one that already exists
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Dampfzauberer


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When i have to clean up things like that, i simply use the blunt side if a knife and push it over the place in a very flat angle.
so the hard steel scrapes the solder a little bit, whilst the brass gets just a little bit "polished" and not scratched.
Do this a few times and the solder will be 99% gone (only a silver looking spot will be left)

Try it out! Works great!
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finaly some progres on this engine
Engine now looks like this:



I've cleaned up the solder around the steam pipe (still needs some cleaning though)


Getting the firebox installed again was realy a difficult job! only the front of the firebox is screwed in, the rest of it is kind of clamped together, you kind of need three hands to do that.

Another difficulty was that I soldered the parts while they where off the engine(frame), there's now quite some tention on the steam pipe  

I screteched the chrome sides a lot, and some paint was getting off, so I thought I would screw it up, but luckily most of the damaged surface is behind the black pieces of the firebox, this is all you see of it:



Next job is to get the water level glass back in here:


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Minor1PJG


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a transformation.

The firebox looks great.  

You should be very proud of what you have achieved so far.  

FANTASTIC
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It doesnt look like you are too far off from a Steam up! Cant wait.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

looking really good!  I handled my first SP5 yesterday, when I was at my mate Darrens place.  He has an old wrecker!
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