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Revisiting Arrow/Môr Forwyn
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:22 am    Post subject: Revisiting Arrow/Môr Forwyn Reply with quote

When John Chapman was staying with me a he took a shine to an ME1 I had gathering dust on a shelf.....previously he'd let slip he had the business end of a Bowman M140 in a box somewhere.....a deal was swiftly agreed!

As you'll see in the video, I'm in the progress of fitting the engine in my Arrow.....I've replaced the flywheel with meccano gearing, SeaHawk style, and a displacement lubricator and oil trap will be added.

This engine packs a serious punch.....I now need to decide if I want this engine in this boat and the SEL unit in another, or vice versa.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, I would definately try the M140 engine unit in a boat! You don't see many twin cylinder boats do you?  
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wow, I would definately try the M140 engine unit in a boat! You don't see many twin cylinder boats do you?  


Well, it's all RocDoc's fault....I love his SeaHawk so much, I want my own - this will be the next best thing.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is awesome Moose...looks like it was custom made to fit the boat perfectly.  Can the boiler keep up with two cylinders would be my only concern, but I believe you have a gas burner in that one, so probably not a problem.

I still can't get over how nicely that engine slots into a boat!!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is almost enough to make one want a boat. We need more pictures please
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stunning stuff there Odilon, can't wait for the sea trials.  
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope that thing is a self starter mat looks like you could loose a finger in there  
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not quite a self-starter Graham, they're single acting cylinders.....they take some stalling though. All I need to do to is center the gear properly on the shaft - I need to whittle a proper bush, at the moment it runs out of true a little.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sounds good mate look forward to seeing it running in person.
hope you are ready for a steamup  
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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sounds good mate look forward to seeing it running in person.
hope you are ready for a steamup  


You bet I am! I'll have it sorted for when you're over, maybe we can go and chuck it in the pond.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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sounds good mate look forward to seeing it running in person.
hope you are ready for a steamup  


You bet I am! I'll have it sorted for when you're over, maybe we can go and chuck it in the pond.


Sorry I cant see the video, some of us are still on clockwork dial up. But your plans sounds a fab one.

I've had trouble with meccano gears running out of true. Is that the problem or is the shaft too small?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MooseMan wrote:
Mamodman123 wrote:
Wow, I would definately try the M140 engine unit in a boat! You don't see many twin cylinder boats do you?  


Well, it's all RocDoc's fault....I love his SeaHawk so much, I want my own - this will be the next best thing.


Aye, we've all got our faults ...


Looking at my M140, the engine looks identical to that in the Seahawk.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

now that is good!

Do you expect a massive speed increase?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a good idea! I'd never thought about it before but the 140 is an ideal boat engine... powerful and compact. I'll be following this with great interest!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've no idea what the net result will be......the SEL (ME3) is quite a powerful beastie....on the dry it runs faster than the 140 engine, but it certainly doesn't have the same torque. I want to try out how hard I can push that burner/boiler....mind you, on the very first run with the SEL engine going flat out she nearly capsized on a sharp turn....

Of course the Bowman engine has the advantage that it is better balanced, and has a very low centre of gravity....it will be below the water line. I also would like to see if it would be possible to do a direct drive rather than a geared one.
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