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Nick


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd love to see them burning with a shorter wick.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mamodman123 wrote:
Are you making them to buy?


Exactly the same question that I have!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Mamodman123 wrote:
Are you making them to buy?


Exactly the same question that I have!

I made most of that one up from flat brass sheet it was a bit fidly and time consuming. Im trying to source some brass tube here in brisbane but no luck as yet.
it burnt long enough to bring the loco to the boil from cold  and stoped burning as the steam was running out soam happy with that  
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, looks a bit like the Sidestreet one, nice work!

As far as holding it in place, I have found with the sidestreet one that I needed to cut it down to clear the PPS wheel nuts.  This, along with the rear buffer beam screws into the frame, give a good pressure fit into the frame, and then the top cover holds it.

Good luck with the project!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Graham-Jilly wrote:
Chris wrote:
Mamodman123 wrote:
Are you making them to buy?


Exactly the same question that I have!

I made most of that one up from flat brass sheet it was a bit fidly and time consuming. Im trying to source some brass tube here in brisbane but no luck as yet.
it burnt long enough to bring the loco to the boil from cold  and stoped burning as the steam was running out soam happy with that  


So you will make them for sale

Don't make me beg, please    
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Garrett yess it looks a lot like the sidestreet one as thats where I got my inspiation I had to add the small breather to the top of it otherewise it wouldnt fill properly

MM If i can sorce tubing for them im sure I can manufacture a few for sale . but will need to iron out some small things like mounting etc. wouldnt like it to fall out while screaming round the track
the back part hooks over the two screws that hold the back buffer beam. so maybe ill make the other mount similer to the sidestreet version and have it close off the fire chamber properly. then minimising cabin fires
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Garrett yess it looks a lot like the sidestreet one as thats where I got my inspiation I had to add the small breather to the top of it otherewise it wouldnt fill properly



The Sidestreet one has a bottom vent/overflow.  It is a curved bit of brass tubing inside the tank that bends up inside.  It discharges in the taper of the sideframe, before the bufferplate, at the very rear of the side of the tank.  Works well as the meths are blown out the side (away from the loco and the burner) in case of overflow Vs on the footplate (at flame level inside the loco).

This allows for the Sidestreet mounting bracket to be employed, the bent top plate.  

Have you read the info on burners on the Roundhouse site?  I found a problem with my wicks from this article I need to address.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive just read that article and its very interesting. thanks for pointing it out. now back to the drawing board with my burner I dont want to breach copywrite with sidestreat and their burner tho
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good work - very nice
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ive just read that article and its very interesting. thanks for pointing it out. now back to the drawing board with my burner I dont want to breach copywrite with sidestreat and their burner tho


I do not think there would be any breach of copyright, ideas are ideas, and if you are unsure about it, just run it by Marc.

Honestly, they are all pretty identical, and Sidestreet took the Roundhouse way of making the burner vent.....they were the one of if not the first RH dealers in the US afterall?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does it not depend whether they have patened the design?  
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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thanks les it runs great in the loco  


Thats great! Is it for a Mamod loco?
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yes Trapper its for a mamod loco  
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Does it not depend whether they have patened the design?  

I realy dont know MM  
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Does it not depend whether they have patened the design?  

I realy dont know MM  


Paten the design ?  As I said, there is nothing proprietary about the design, and if anything, it is safer than the UK made ones due to the design features I listed.

Guys.....if you are worred, just ask Marc:

http://www.sidestreetbannerworks.com/other/contact.html

He is a nice enough guy and has helped the steam hobby in this country for decades.
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