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mogogear · Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:01 pm Post subject:

I genuinely appreciate all the input-'
Hopefully my eagerness will help other newbies to take heed0 ?( I should have read Bessy's post more slowly and carefully) I didn't pick up on the sand sealer term until Bogstandard mentioned it again, more dramatically !!

I have already gone and bought sandable sealer, and stripper. I have stripped and sanded and sanded and scraped and wire brushed and dried and wiped off........ and sealed the first coat!!!

Amazingly I was able to get off about 95 % of the primer, stripped off the original water line ( and lower color) down to the wood . The paint on the outside - above water line - was another story.

That paint company must no longer me in business. BECAUSE THEY NEVER NEEDED TO SELL ANY MORE PAINT TO THEIR CUSTOMERS. REPAINTING WAS NEVER NEEDED AGAIN !!!

After getting the primer off of the sides- That original paint resisted 100grit sand paper- 2 whole sheets-more sanding and more stripper. I got about 20% of the sides of the hull off. So it is above water line and hopefully the least vulnerable. I also drilled a hole into a sealed rear compartment and poured some sealer in there and coated it by rolling the boat around in the air.

So now - I will sand it lightly- and then re-coat again with sealer. Then I will re-read both of your instructions before I go onto the next part.

EDIT:

Ok- I will sand and re-coat sealer at least 5-6 coats. But I am stopping after my second coat tonight till I get my boiler and engine fitted so I know where to put the sleepers on the bottom. I call 'em sleepers - the square wood stock to screw the boiler drip pan and engine drip pan to.. I don't really want to screw them down through the bottom of the boat!!!!!

So I will halt now- get them located - glued in place- and then continue my sealer coats...

Since this is a Snipe-like boat- I will have to see if your "fiberglass " suggestions is what I want to do- Once again- I will carefully re-read your posts and make sure I was not just "browsing" too fast..

But I am thinking of priming a couple of coats after the sealer coats, then paint- then top coat. Sanding in between all..

Thanks again- I do want this boat to last for my daughter..
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Minor1PJG · Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:34 am Post subject:

I have not bought a boat, but I have in mind that this year could be the year to dip my toe in

and buy a steam boat.

This thread has really fired me and now I know how it should be prepared, particularly the sealing of the inside I'm keen to make that purchase

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Nick · Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:37 am Post subject:

I'm glad to hear you re-did the project the right way.

It seems like a lot of people have been starting boat projects lately.

mogogear · Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:01 pm Post subject:

To dredge this topic back up - I am approaching touch paint time on my new / old Snipe. After that is it still the consensus from Bogstandard or Bessy or others that I should then fine / fine sand the outer hull and "paint" with resin to really preserve and protect?

I am really thinking that would give a great protection and am heading that direction..

I think it really "flattens" out well and the brush strokes go away? It did a smooth job on my small repairs, but I want to be sure- to remove a complete resin coat would seem to be pretty destructive if I do not get this right!! I can re-sand the transition areas when I do the outer and I ASSUME do the same to the inside hull?

I would then have an encapsulated Snipe that would seem to go for another 70 years.. hopefully!!
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H2o vapour · Junior Member Joined: 16 Feb 2007 Posts: 282

Hi Guys

Not been on for a few days, good topic this!!

I would like to add the point hear and now, if you are serious about boats, look at Bogstandard's notes.

This is the only way , I've been at boats on and off for 30 years now and I would totally support the method, the amount of work, and the materials.

Cascermite, I'm not sure what the modern name is, is the only boat building glue. Washing under the decks to get that seal is essential. Finishing is the hard part to any model. Do it well and it will re-pay your time and effort, again and again.

H20

mogogear · Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:08 pm Post subject:

Thanks H2O-

I have done all that with my first boat, sealed - with LIBERAL amounts and have done three coats to the inside hull then will primer 2 coats and then resin coat.

It is the outside hull I am asking about..And on a Original Snipe that I have had to repair the hull

Then touch up the paint,

I assume the next step would be to lightly sand entire outer hull , then clear coat with something that is compatible with the original hull paint ( enamel?) so enamel clear coat??

Then lightly sand ( with something like 600 or 1200 grit WD

Then resin coat the outside hull?

That is where my question lie now--- And H2O - i will not waver from what the pro's recommend!!

Thanks
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MooseMan · Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:56 pm Post subject:

Mo, I can only tell you what I would do....I must admit here that resin scares the living bejaysus out of me, because once it's on, that's where it stays - no room for mistakes, and I have NO idea how it is going to react with the paintwork on your Snipe......I would personally finish it with a good quality marine grade varnish.

Oh yeah, and I agree with the Cascamite comment - that stuff's great! You buy it in powder form, just add water. Stinks, and is probably poisonous, but it doesn't hang about getting the job done!
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mogogear · Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:01 pm Post subject:

I know- resin gets my attention as well, but It paints on much like any clear- except it is hardening. It is sandable... So doing the inside of a hull with it doesn't bother me in the least- it will sure make leaks out of the question..

Paint, clear coat, resin or Varnish or what?
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MooseMan · Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:07 am Post subject:

Mo, you have a PM.
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