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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine must be one of the early ones.
There is a rear seat which fits over the servo.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ditto, but I hide the servo and receiver behind a removable panel (not shown).

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MooseMan wrote:
Ditto, but I hide the servo and receiver behind a removable panel (not shown).


Never got around to making one for the front, but as mine is looking tired, I think it is time for a clean up and refit.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ncseverson wrote:
kusuchi wrote:
johnreid wrote:
There are serious rumors that this one is for sale
http://tinyurl.com/2w49ef


Is this 'National Mess with your Avatar' week? I must have missed the memo.

3 of us so far.

Richard, could we get a new view of the Virgin Islands?



Of course, just buy a ticket, and pack your best engines!    
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kusuchi wrote:
ncseverson wrote:
kusuchi wrote:
johnreid wrote:
There are serious rumors that this one is for sale
http://tinyurl.com/2w49ef


Is this 'National Mess with your Avatar' week? I must have missed the memo.

3 of us so far.

Richard, could we get a new view of the Virgin Islands?



Of course, just buy a ticket, and pack your best engines!    


On my way.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who are the big online retailers for steam boat kits in the US?  Tower Hobbies only do Midwest in Steam.  Ministeam only do the Tuscher & Walther prebuilts plus the Wilesco D70.

Everything on Google seems to be in the UK..
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a couple.
When you do a Google search, do an advanced search and change the region to the United States.
http://www.naturecoast.com/?gclid=CMXP3qG39pECFQEKuwod3l2CoA

http://www.modelboat.com/
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Mooseman,

have you considered the Graupner Glasgow kit?

Its a paddle steamer kit that is essentially plastic and pre-cut wood so building it is a comparatively quick job.

Its designed to take the twin cylinder Wilesco marine plant (the gas fired one - can't remember the number!) which can be controlled by RC forwards and reverse.


For all the reasons you mention here I think this might be a better boat for me than Moose.

http://www.harbormodels.com/site0...pner/glasgow_paddlewheel_info.htm

What does everyone think?

The next thing I need is some good advice on an engine.  If money was no object this would be my #1 choice.





Harbor Models sell it with the 'Saito'.

http://www.harbormodels.com/Harbormain/Templates/m32-steamengines.htm

Anyone know anything about this engine?



Westbourne models sell it with the Anton

http://www.westbourne-models.com/...addlewheel%26btnG%3DGoogle+Search

Again I know nothing about this engine.


alwayshobbies.com sell it with a Wilesco.

http://www.alwayshobbies.com/Stor...nder-Marine-Steam-Engine-$9-STM48

I have a problem getting Butane here in the VI.  Is it readily available in the US?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Richard,

I told you about this engine in your other posting. It is the latest one from Monahan. $3000 for the plant.

http://www.monahansteammodels.com/steamplants.aspx


With regards to your building of the Glasgow. They call this a quick kit, the only reason for that statement is that it is aimed at the fairly experienced builder, and has an ABS hull to save time not having to build a plank of frame one. I have built this one, and I will tell you now, it is not one to be made as a second boat. Just having the paddles causes problems from the normal dimensions of building a model boat. Just as an example. the kit tells you to fit the paddle sponsons and covers a certain way, if you do it their way, the deck will flood on its first outing and the sponsons wobble up and down. Being experienced with problems such as this, I redesigned the way the covers fitted, and fitted solid carbon fibre rods thru the hull to support the sponsons from underneath, to such an extent you could lift the boat out of the water by the sponsons if you wished. The steam plant they sell for it is in fact a Wilesco unit.
It is not an easy build kit or a short term project.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Richard, can't say I know anything about that engine, but it is sure beautiful in the detail department...looks much like a Cheddar, but maybe it's one of those new Monahan engines BogStandard pointed out.  I think the Monahans are made in the US.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are looking for a reasonably price steam plant, and don't mind getting one from the European mainland, this is about the best available in the lower priced bracket (almost the same type of engine Stuarts are selling for double the price).

http://www.regner-dampftechnik.de...les/neuheiten2005/dampfm_midi.php

or this one

http://www.regner-dampftechnik.de...neuheiten2007/vivian_easyline.php

or just an engine

http://www.regner-dampftechnik.de.../neuheiten2007/venus_easyline.php

or even a loco

http://www.regner-dampftechnik.de...euheiten2007/vincent_easyline.php

John
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IndianaRog wrote:
Richard, can't say I know anything about that engine, but it is sure beautiful in the detail department...looks much like a Cheddar, but maybe it's one of those new Monahan engines BogStandard pointed out.  I think the Monahans are made in the US.

Rog


You're right, Rog, the engine is exquisite in it's every detail...with a price to match.  

I think what I really need is advice on which of the more sensibly priced units would be appropriate for the task.
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Bogstandard wrote:
If you are looking for a reasonably price steam plant, and don't mind getting one from the European mainland, this is about the best available in the lower priced bracket (almost the same type of engine Stuarts are selling for double the price).

http://www.regner-dampftechnik.de...les/neuheiten2005/dampfm_midi.php

or this one

http://www.regner-dampftechnik.de...neuheiten2007/vivian_easyline.php

or just an engine

http://www.regner-dampftechnik.de.../neuheiten2007/venus_easyline.php

or even a loco

http://www.regner-dampftechnik.de...euheiten2007/vincent_easyline.php

John


Thanks John,

Is there an English translation for these.

They look nice , but I'm feeling a little lost right now.  What's the difference between the two marines?  

With the Euro @ $1.52 they are 2/3rds of  the price of the Saito or Anton.  Are they good engines?  What about the Wilesco, that certainly is the cheapest?

Or even the boat itself?
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Bogstandard wrote:
Richard,

I told you about this engine in your other posting. It is the latest one from Monahan. $3000 for the plant.

http://www.monahansteammodels.com/steamplants.aspx


With regards to your building of the Glasgow. They call this a quick kit, the only reason for that statement is that it is aimed at the fairly experienced builder, and has an ABS hull to save time not having to build a plank of frame one. I have built this one, and I will tell you now, it is not one to be made as a second boat. Just having the paddles causes problems from the normal dimensions of building a model boat. Just as an example. the kit tells you to fit the paddle sponsons and covers a certain way, if you do it their way, the deck will flood on its first outing and the sponsons wobble up and down. Being experienced with problems such as this, I redesigned the way the covers fitted, and fitted solid carbon fibre rods thru the hull to support the sponsons from underneath, to such an extent you could lift the boat out of the water by the sponsons if you wished. The steam plant they sell for it is in fact a Wilesco unit.
It is not an easy build kit or a short term project.

John




Sigh.........

I will, of course, be taking your advice here John.

So it's back to square one. (Still, sure did see some pretty engines along the way! ).  That Monahan......

I think I will adopt Moose's philosophy.  Sit back, take it easy and when it's my time,  a picture perfect Krick Victoria will drop in my lap.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kusuchi wrote:

Harbor Models sell it with the 'Saito'.

http://www.harbormodels.com/Harbormain/Templates/m32-steamengines.htm

Anyone know anything about this engine?


I've never run a Saito but I have held one and it looked pretty good
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