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MooseMan


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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as I know all Bowman safety valves (I have 9) unscrew at the bottom end, but sometimes they stick - in that case a bit of heat invariably frees them up....you just need to break the lime bond that will have formed on the threads.

I missed Pete's original post.....the valve on the left is a boat valve, it dooesn't have the stickyout bit (technical term ) because that would foul the boiler shroud.
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is possible that mine isnt authentic then I guess. No evidence of threads even, However like I said, the Safety Valve on my M158 is threaded and after a soaking in Vinegar it unscrews with ease.
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK lads, I've answered the question myself
Had a good poke around & under the crud detected a screw thread at top end, just as MM suggested.
Therefore confirm that this type of Bowman SV (& I'm sure it's a genuine one, John) unscrews at top. See below:

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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, it looks like mine is going to spend some time in the Vinegar now.
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SG, if it won't come undone, see if you can get several circlips small enough not to interfere with the SV thread but big enough to go over the SV spring shaft.  Then add them, one by one, betweeen the 'nut' on the end of the shaft and the spring, until you have the desired tension.   May save you a bit of money and you'll be using the original SV.

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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that SG, the strange thing is that I was steaming my M158 on the weekend and noticed that its SV is the same as yours. Will have a ferret around and see but am pretty sure that the others are all screw at the bottom ones.  
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

flywheel61 wrote:
SG, if it won't come undone, see if you can get several circlips small enough not to interfere with the SV thread but big enough to go over the SV spring shaft.  Then add them, one by one, betweeen the 'nut' on the end of the shaft and the spring, until you have the desired tension.   May save you a bit of money and you'll be using the original SV.

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Thanks Chris & that would certainly be a clever solution & will remember for future reference but as you can see from above post, I've solved the problem & managed to unscrew this unusually configured SV.
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've tried stretching the middle of spring whilst it's still installed and was successful  (I just gripped either end of the spring coils and pulled the middle ones out a bit with my fingers).   That wasn't on a bowman valve though but the principle is the same, you haven't got much to lose really.

I also managed to "wind on" a new spring on to another SV post with out disassembling anything too.  (Most of the modern valves don't come apart easily).   Getting the first coil round the post is the trickiest bit but once one part is wrapped round the next follows easily.
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mc_mc wrote:
I've tried stretching the middle of spring whilst it's still installed and was successful  (I just gripped either end of the spring coils and pulled the middle ones out a bit with my fingers).   That wasn't on a bowman valve though but the principle is the same, you haven't got much to lose really.

I also managed to "wind on" a new spring on to another SV post with out disassembling anything too.  (Most of the modern valves don't come apart easily).   Getting the first coil round the post is the trickiest bit but once one part is wrapped round the next follows easily.



I did that with an SEL one a while ago and it broke, it looks like it was brass    

The wind on spring is a great tip thanks
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Soaked it in Vinegar, no luck, soaked it in heated Liquid Wrench ( penetrating oil ) and Eureka! it unscrewed!!!
   

I believe that I will place a Teflon washer between the two top parts till I find a suitable spring. I bet my M135 will run twice a fast now.
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnreid wrote:
Soaked it in Vinegar, no luck, soaked it in heated Liquid Wrench ( penetrating oil ) and Eureka! it unscrewed!!!


Great!  Thumbs up!  Glad my little conundrum has helped solve yours  
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad to hear you have both sorted out your safety valves.  
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