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nuvolari


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:59 am    Post subject: The EP "Rapid" 423 Reply with quote

Hi,

Lately one of the new ads to the pile of need to be restored, is the EP "rapid" 423.

This lovely machine from around 1902-1906 is in the style of the EP "Hercules" but much bigger and the condition it came in is much better.
Never the less it needs to be taken fully apart.

Again the usual problems of wear and tear.
Rust, solder clutter and missing parts, never the less a lovely project.

Here is how they advertised this machine in the 1902 catalog.


And this is how this old lady arrived:





Well of to take the machine apart...

Cheers,
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good luck, Danny. I'm sure this one will turn out as good as the Hercules
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some nice details on that Danny, good luck with the restoration
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This will immaculate by the time you have restored it.  
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another challenge for you, Danny. Will watch with interest.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's going to look fab! Interesting engine.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a fine little engine
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks guys to show trust in my restoration work.

Today a product arrived where is was waiting for to finish the project.
The product gives the metal back a nice black patina.
After all the rust was treated on the fire house, a chemical was used to make it black again, as it was.
And the result is very pleasing to me.
Let me know your opinion?

The top plate has still got it's original nickel shine, only one big part had very deep corrosion.
The top rust was removed an chemically treated to stop the rust.
It will stay like this, and I think it's ok like that as a charm of time.


Now I've to reassemble everything...

Cheers,
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nuvolari wrote:
thanks guys to show trust in my restoration work.

Today a product arrived where is was waiting for to finish the project.
The product gives the metal back a nice black patina.
After all the rust was treated on the fire house, a chemical was used to make it black again, as it was.
And the result is very pleasing to me.
Let me know your opinion?

The top plate has still got it's original nickel shine, only one big part had very deep corrosion.
The top rust was removed an chemically treated to stop the rust.
It will stay like this, and I think it's ok like that as a charm of time.


Now I've to reassemble everything...

Cheers,
Danny


From the photo it looks like it's a new firebox, a right choice of product on your part.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...Here is a small update on the big EP Rapid.
Everything is reassembled now, also did a test run witch was perfect.
Still need to make a replica burner and the chimney.
this is how she looks now





In the meanwhile I was able to buy a smaler sister of the "Rapid" family.
I think it's a EP "rapid" 420/1 according the description.
As usual it comes with solder clutter and corrosion.
Also there where changes made with the logo, you can still see the marks on the burner house, and the burner is Doll or Falk.
But all by all still in very good condition according it's age.
But once we give it some love an care, it will look as big brother.




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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:11 pm    Post subject: The EP Rapid 423 Reply with quote

Hi Danny another nice job bringing this lovely engine back to life, great work as always mate.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Danny what a lovely engine.. that should brush up nicely....Steve
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great charm, these old bock maschinen are just delightful
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A real credit to you Danny what a lovely job you have done.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you all for your nice comments.

A while a go an American member, "parallelmotion", presented a beautiful rare EP in general discussion, under the title "early Plank is running again".
He was so kind enough to show us these around 1900 EP burners with a full description:
parallelmotion wrote:
Here are a couple photos of early original Plank burners. The largest one is from the 'Cornwall' while the two smaller ones are from horizontal boiler 'bock' or pillar engines like the 'Rapid' or 'Cosmos' series. Larger is 9x4.8x3.7 cm (LxWxH) not including the handle. Smaller boxes are 6x3.3x2.5 cm. The smaller ones are roughly 1/2 the length of their boilers. Wick tubes extend about 2/3 down into the burner. Note crudely punched vent holes.



Just what I needed to go ahead for a replica.
The dimensions of my burner is like the original burners.
But with the good experience I had with improving the wick of the burner for the Bowman LNER 265 locomotive, I thought it might be a good idea to do a similar thing with this new burner.
Unfortunately the plate steel was not so thick as I should have used, deforming the plate metal with silver soldering.
But looking at it now, the deformation gave it an antique/used look that is not so bad
It was very hard to film the flame, as it's a pure blue one, but you get the idea...


Let us know what you think of this idea?

Cheers,
Danny
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