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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:53 am    Post subject: Wilesco - How to attach a broken drain valve? Reply with quote

Dear all,

I hope you can help me. Right now I'm working on an old Wilesco engine where the water drain valve on the kettle is broken.

What is the best way to attach it? I've already tried soldering with a solder station, JB weld glue (if anyone knows) and some cold welding paste.

Any ideas?

Thank you

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 10:42 am    Post subject: Re: Wilesco - How to attach a broken drain valve? Reply with quote

Little Bandit wrote:
Dear all,

I hope you can help me. Right now I'm working on an old Wilesco engine where the water drain valve on the kettle is broken.

What is the best way to attach it? I've already tried soldering with a solder station, JB weld glue (if anyone knows) and some cold welding paste.

Any ideas?

Thank you

Greetings Dennis

In what way is it broken? If the valve itself is broken then you might have to replace it. If it's the bush then soldering is the correct method but a soldering station does not provide sufficient heat. You need a gas torch.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Roly,

thanks for your reply. Broken means that the drain pipe is broken off from the downside of the valve body.

If I use a small gas torch, which solder should I use then?

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Dear Roly,

thanks for your reply. Broken means that the drain pipe is broken off from the downside of the valve body.

If I use a small gas torch, which solder should I use then?

Thanks

I would use electrical solder (with the built in flux core) or you could use plumber's solder with an appropriate flux. The important thing is, whatever solder you use, the parts to be joined must be clean and free of any tarnish.

With parts that small, I would use a small pencil type gas torch if you have one.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To repair the Wilesco drain valve -
    1) Unscrew the valve from the boiler.
    2) Dismantle the valve. The heat of soldering will destroy the valve seal.
    3) Clean the parts to be joined with steel wool.
    4) Solder the pipe to the valve.
    5) Clean the parts to remove solder residue and flux.
    6) Reassemble the valve and refit to boiler.


Electrical solder and a good flux (e.g. Baker's No. 3) will produced a good joint.
Those who are new to soldering may prefer to use solder paste.

You may find it helpful to read this - http://www.bengs-modellbau.de/mag...-verzinnungspaste-eine-anleitung/
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear all,

thanks again for your helpful answers!

HenryArtist wrote:
To repair the Wilesco drain valve -
[list]1) Unscrew the valve from the boiler.
2) Dismantle the valve. The heat of soldering will destroy the valve seal.


Unfortunately this is not possible, it's a d24 where the valve is soldered to the boiler itself
All I could try is to remove all the parts around (oven door and the plastic handle).

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

could you just post a pic of the issue... maybe then it is easier to help...
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I, too, would like to see a picture.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear all,

sorry for the late reply. Here is a photo of the broken drain pipe.



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thick gloves and a soldering iron.

Remove if possible the cock itself and use the thick solder in place by melting it with the iron and presto
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Petrie,

thanks for your tip.
Seems like soldering is still the best solution.

I'm in contact now with a steam engine friend from Germany that could repair it in summer, let's see how it turns out.

For the moment, thanks a lot for your help. This forum is great

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good luck, Dennis
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