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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2017 11:38 am    Post subject: Mamod firebox cowls Reply with quote

Hi Folks,
I just wondered if anyone on here had delved into making their own firebox cowls on the mobile mamod's? Will @ manor used to sell lovely stainless ones. I was wondering about the feasibility of copper or brass ones.

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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2017 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was lucky I got Will stainless cowls for all my restorations. I would imagine Jon would be the man for pressed steel replicas.

Are you short of a cowl?
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2017 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They look easy enough to make.  2 90 degree bends and a few holes drilled for air and fittings.
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2017 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crouch wrote:
I was lucky I got Will stainless cowls for all my restorations. I would imagine Jon would be the man for pressed steel replicas.

Are you short of a cowl?


I had a glut of them back in the day it was a shame he stopped production.

I've got a late 60's SR1a where the cowl has been sprayed satin black, if you happen to know of a good one I'd be grateful if any leads.

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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2017 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crouch wrote:
I was lucky I got Will stainless cowls for all my restorations. I would imagine Jon would be the man for pressed steel replicas.

Are you short of a cowl?


Possibly, now I've got a new job, though it would be a flat pressing like the older ones. Changed jobs twice since I made the scuttles, and only been at this place a week, so will leave asking for another week yet!
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2017 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Out of interest, does anyone know, or can measure what gauge they are?  
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2017 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please may I ask a fairly simple question, related to your projects, that has been baffling me for mine. I would like to replace the cowl on my roadster. I can see that it is riveted to the chassis with 4 rivets. My question is - if I buy a shiny new cowl how much more do I have to remove other than the four chassis rivets, ie can I then wangle the replacement cowl into the verticle and horizontal recesses of the fire box - or is it impossible and thus I will also have to demount part of the firebox from the boiler to insert the new cowl?? If the latter I think I will not bother   although obviously I can see that totally dismantling is going to be the "proper" way to do it.
Any constrctive advice to a newbie greatfully recieved.
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2017 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spot if you remove the four rivets you cowl and firebox/boiler are not supported, therefore would mean the firebox would drop out. Not too bad if intended, but a bit annoying if not Help  

Really a proper job would be to remove the whole assembly, from the roadster. The replace the cowl and rivet back in reverse order this also would involve a little soldering too.

What you could try first is a good polish used on exhausts for motorbikes, nitrochrome polish I think its called, sold in Halfords or similar. If theres still shine there, may be worth a go before breaking apart if your not confident, better than brasso, or silvo in anycase
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2017 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Much obliged, many thanks, youve confirmed what I thought.  As I do not really have the time to tackle that yet I will leave well alone - and thanks for the polish tip, very useful.
I really appreciate the whole of this forum - a wealth of knowledge!!
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2017 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have the time for any of my projects either, but i always make a concerted effort to start ie strip down an strip paint, its amazing what can be done with a drill a 3mm drill bit, paint stripper, (nitromors) and some polish, then you just need to choose your paint scheme, that's the hardest part!!     just take care on the cowl as that's a 2mm drill bit!!!!!!  some go for larger drills to drill the head only off but the rivet can be a pain sometimes
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2017 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good points, well made.  
But.... Summer's coming in England - it must be, its pouring with rain (muffled cheer from gardeners and steam engine rainwater harvesters!!). I think a few months of steaming is called for now, and put off the inevitable refurb fun until winter. I totally accept your well made hint - there's no gain without a tiny bit of pain!!! Haha! Agreed.
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Spot99 wrote:
Good points, well made.  
But.... Summer's coming in England - it must be, its pouring with rain (muffled cheer from gardeners and steam engine rainwater harvesters!!). I think a few months of steaming is called for now, and put off the inevitable refurb fun until winter. I totally accept your well made hint - there's no gain without a tiny bit of pain!!! Haha! Agreed.
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There ya go   That's what happened to me, beware of this lot, they lead you down the golden path, where before long you end up with several more mamods and accessories that you never knew you needed, but you do!!!! Oh trust me you do, am I affected by the forum effect yet??? I even bought two Bings while I've been here, never heard of them before joining this forum. But don't see it as a sad thing, one resides with me one got restored, and now resides up north in Newcastle area after I gave it away in a prize draw,was a bit of a mess before I started on it, some would say more so after, but it ran and that's what's matters    
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Some say we only live once, so I am hedging my bets. After a lifetime of building, plumbing etc diy I have enough 'only used once' tools to restock several well known DIY Sheds! Its a bit like the history of 1970's LED wristwatches, which were an offspring of the space prog, so we are told. First "they" (careful !) invented button cell batteries for the project and then had to go out and find something innovative to do with them, the genius was not the battery, but the watch!! Now ive got the tools, and the Mamods, but too late, now need a boost on the enthusiasm for the slightly tricky bits. Never mind, its all harmless fun?
Right, ok, night shift over. Time for breakfast! Who dares, wins!!
Sorry to have hijacked your thread Liam, and Good luck with the new job Jon and future cowl fabricating!!!!!
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If all is good with fabricating I'll let you know on the cowl spot  

As for enthusiasm, any pics of your roadster??    I tend to have a lot of enthusiasm with projects, maybe a little will rub off      Its getting them finished that I find hard  
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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2017 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spot99 wrote:
I think a few months of steaming is called for now, and put off the inevitable refurb fun until winter.
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Summer is the time to restore unless you have access to a spray both. All my painting was done on warm sunny days in the open
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