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Bowman M167 restoration - Gun Gum experiment has Failed p3
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RocDoc


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:43 pm    Post subject: Bowman M167 restoration - Gun Gum experiment has Failed p3 Reply with quote

Hi everyone,

Bought this lovely little M167 on Ebay for £25 ... real bargain.  Needs a bit of work ...

* new exhaust pipe to chimney
* firebox under front of boiler 'holed' just where steam pipe emerges from boiler
* looks like the filler plug has been broken off ... remaining bit may need to be drilled out, replaced with a new one.
* Baseplate probably needs stripping and a new coat of "Bowman" Green.  New decal of course
* Valve doesn't look correct, may need a new one
* Spit and polish ... lots of TLC

It'll have to wait as I'm off to Rio de Janeiro on business this weekend.  I might try to upload some photos when away.

Cheers

Pete  









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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How thin are the fireboxes?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can sort you out with a decal  
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's great Pete, and a bargain at that price! The outer casing at the bottom of the chimney is missing, but thats easily replaced. How come I don't see eBay bargains like that?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve_S wrote:
That's great Pete, and a bargain at that price! The outer casing at the bottom of the chimney is missing, but thats easily replaced. How come I don't see eBay bargains like that?


Hi Steve,
It wasn't actually listed as a Bowman, just as "Live steam horizontal engine".  I made the guy a BIN offer.

I see what you mean about the lower casing.  Should be easy to find I guess.

Pete
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mamodman123 wrote:
I can sort you out with a decal  


That's fantastic, thanks.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RocDoc wrote:
I see what you mean about the lower casing.  Should be easy to find I guess.


Yes, you just need a piece of brass tubing the same diameter as the top part of the chimney. You can see the ring of solder where the original was attached. Its like the ones I've made except that I had to do it in three pieces instead of two:

http://modelsteam.myfreeforum.org/about4004.html
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice buy, you cannot go wrong at £25 really. Thumbs up!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RocDoc wrote:
I made the guy a BIN offer.


So that's where it went  Had seen it, then it was gone & thought I'd imagined things  
Glad it's gone to a caring home  
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice buy, I'm looking forward to see the restoration of it.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thought I would update you all on the progress of the 167 restoration.  I've cleaned everything and polished all the brass work.  The engine components have had a good long soak in WD40.  

As I couldn't see anything obviously wrong with the boiler or engine, I decided to test the engine by steaming it up.  She fired up first time and goes like the clappers (see video below).  

Next jobs include repainting the base plate (in green) and possibly the boiler strap (in black) although I think red is quite fetching.  Another big job is to patch the firebox ... and to repair the exhaust pipe-chimney 'plumbing' arrangement.

So far so good ...

Cheers

Pete


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice to hear that she runs well and you are progressing with the restoration Pete

One thing though, is the safety valve thread at an angle? In the first pic the safety valve appears to be leaning
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For it to run out for so long the piston and cylinder must be in A1 shape!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MTA wrote:
Nice to hear that she runs well and you are progressing with the restoration Pete

One thing though, is the safety valve thread at an angle? In the first pic the safety valve appears to be leaning


Hi,

Yea, it does look like it's leaning on the photo but I think it's ok.  When I screw the SV in it sits nice and level ... at least to my untrained eye that it.

Pete
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It runs very well.... typical Bowman.
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