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IndianaRog · Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:34 pm Post subject:

Mo...you will love the Dremel 400...my kids gave me one for Christmas a year ago and I certainly gave the thing plenty of practice.

Only suggestion is to save the receipt...one year warranty. Mine crapped out (sort of flamed out to be precise) at about 11 months and I got a replacement free. I think I got a bit too much brass dust sucked in the cooling intakes!!! It's demise was spectacular to say the least, but plastic housing protected me. I still love the beast, but hang onto the receipt!!
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mogogear · Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:34 pm Post subject:

Ahhhh...Wise , sage advice ...
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mogogear · Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:08 pm Post subject:

It has been a while since I snagged the boat now known as Boat #2.

She finally arrived - with fore-known busted super structure etc.
She is about 34" long and a beam of 8.5"
The hull is about 5" deep. She dwarfs Boat #1

This boat was a project for some Coast Guard staffer based on a small island off of Rhode Island..

Here she is with the start of deck modification underway, clearing room for the Crompton boiler and Modeen twin engine

Boat #1 in the picture for scale and comparison- Boat #1 is 24" long X 4" beam

I still need to cut down the propeller shaft length to allow for the engine to sit in correctly but the stuffing box and shaft were done well.

So - this little bit of just seeing if the twin power plant will fit is done... now it is back to square one of the Bogstandard and company hull preparation suggestion.

Since it is already painted- I am thinking of getting any wooden mounting pieces and modifications added, cut and fitted. Then coating the inside of the hull with fiberglass resin to add strength and seal any poor workmanship that ocured prior ro my ownership..
Hows that sound? Or should I paint with sealer, since it is thinner and it can run into the nooks and crannies, then coat with resin ?

Ok- Thats all for now... poor Boat #1-- still waiting for the power plant fitting before I advance with any other shaft trimmings and further Hull prep. I need to get in proper support wood work for boiler and engine . then finish sealer and paint coats..
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MooseMan · Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:29 pm Post subject:

Oh me oh my.......that is going to be a beauty! Looks like the engine's a perfect size for that hull.

I'll be watching this project very closely!

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mogogear · Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:13 pm Post subject:

Thanks moosey,

This hull is made frome such light balsa wood I am really leaning towards the addition of the resin to give the hull strength.

I agree though- the scale seems right- wow- luck of the draw there- basing all on small ebay photos and the two parts coming from sales weeks apart etc...

I am contemplating decktop options around and around in my head. Open and painted or keeping it a bit small and simple. So I am looking at other boats to mimick -- I don't think I will opt for a cabin or Salon but I have only had the boat in my hands 48 hours so getting a feel for what seems proper has really just started.

The prop shaft and tube has a nice cross member at the engine -end that has a ballbearing built in to the support and seems at least well thought out. The rudder is a bit clunky but may be OK- I am too new at this to know yet.

Hello there bogstandard- whats your read on the resin first or sealer then.. thought????

The
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mogogear · Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:20 pm Post subject:

Oh, yes I am also thinking of making the boiler fasteb down with a hinged arrangement. So that the end near the engine is attached to a hinge. The other would lift up. This would help to tilt the burner end up and help rid me of needing to fill the burner and then tilt it at some extreme angle - WHILE LIT- just to get it in the boiler. I hope that makes sense- seems good on paper...

I can just imagine dumping lit meths all over the WOODEN boat

One of my rare moments of advance thinking- caution --that will not happen again for a while..

Instand bon fire!

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H2o vapour · Junior Member Joined: 16 Feb 2007 Posts: 282

Looking Good!!

Why not try to have the boiler and engine so that they can come out quickly and with ease for maintenance etc.

Also I think you will need a bigger pitched prop to get the the old girl moving. May be worth making sure that you can get at the prop shaft and prop / coupling with ease.

Very nice size - Good project

Good luck!!

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mogogear · Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:36 am Post subject:

Thanks for the input H2O,

I have a drip tray that the boiler and engine will sit on. I was thinking of hinging the boiler to the drip tray... so having the driptray be able to be removed with pins , clips or toggles would be great!! I had thought that wobbled out holes would be a reality after a few- in and outs of the screws!!

Any one with some photos of a proposed way to do this would be King for the day!! Please.

Also I will connect the boiler to engine with hi-temp silicone tubing clamped in place- this should also be a help-- Maybe not as nice at the complete power plants that have all the lines wrapped in white cording... but I can wrap the piping up to the hose..I think...

I also will need a oil trap for the exahust..( also connected by tubing) Then I want to connect the outlet from the trap to the smoke stack with copper tubing . I think a picture of a dream power plant posted by Kusuchi shoed such a exhaust line externally mounted near the top of a stack- My stack is fed with live heat from the burner area - through the boiler body- Visible Vapor coming from the stack is a visual I definetly want to have!!

This one will be RC with servos for F/R and neutral as well as rudder control... All of that will be housed in the rear to help balance the weight..

So throw me any suggestions- becuase this and one more will make two boats I have built-- So newbie is an understatement.

But hopefully this can help details the decisons that need to be addressed on a venture like this-

I am happy to document what I learn from the "collective"
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mogogear · Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:03 pm Post subject:

A minor update... If you refer back to the previous picture- I have had to rethink how to arrange the power plant. Since I was too impatient and didn't foresee this I had to reinstall the cross -rib(?) that I had cut out to allow for the install and removal of the boiler..

FYI- my boat terminology is going to suck alot while I get a handle on the lingo...

Anywat the angle that the prop shaft is installed through the keel forced be to reverse the Bow- Boiler-Engine- Prop coupler order to
Bow - engine - Boiler- prop coupler - with the coupler positioned under the boiler. This will have the benefit of having the boiler more centrally located in the hull - in a front to rear aspect.

I needed to cut out the Cross- rib pieces further to the aft. Also my burner will go into the boiler from the rear facing end as opposed to the bow end0 so many brain storms have been going on..

Take a look as I add some re-inforcement along the deck opening and the lower hull area at the keel. I added oak mounting sleepers so the occasional ( I am an optimist) removing of the boiler via screws can be done in a hard wood and the holes will not get all wallowed out after three times.

Lots of pretty colored clamps while glue dries!!!

I have also been busy making a matching metal tray for the burner to rest on. I made it to overhand the top edge of the boiler drip pan- So just in case I should get any leakage of meths- it might be more inclined to feed in to the boiler pan and not into the wooden bowels of the hull!!

It will sit just behind the new wooden sleepers that are visible in the center , running the length of the boat. and just before the servo deck that finishes up the last 5" aft.

I will get a dry fit positioning of the components tomorrow.

WOW lots of stuff clamped -It looks like a party..As I am sure Richard (kusuchi) will attest to- although a different kind of challenge not having instructions- THIS IS FUN!!

Later
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mogogear · Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:35 pm Post subject:

I couldn't wait to get up and get those"hair bows" off of the boat...!!

So this is what the mock up looks like with power plant set in place...

Once again the rear deck area is where the receiver and two servos will go. Linkage from the rear up to the engine for the forward / reverse is in the thinking stages..

Here is a top view..

The boiler tray still needs to have the hinges fitted between it and the boiler, the boiler is in need of VHT paint to the fire box, smokestack will need something nice on top - a flare of some sort..

Still working out how to hold down the engine to the oak mounting blocks. I and thinking threaded studs in the oak using nuts and a slotted bracket to slide down and clamp the drip tray...

Lots of random thoughts. Oh yes there is a final cross brace with a ball bearing pressed in place that will support the final 1" before the coupler. It has another ballbearing set up just after the shaft exits the keel -- too many-? I don't know - but I like having them I think..

Every time I look at Richard or Moose's boats - they all look so pretty- mine seems in the "ugly ducking stage" for a long time yet...
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IndianaRog · Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:59 pm Post subject:

Mo, that ain't no ugly duckling...shes a swan in the making! Seriously, you are doing good stuff with her and it looks grand if you ask me.

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mogogear · Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:43 pm Post subject:

Ahhh shucks.. thanks Rog....

The steps on the list make the launch date seem far off- but it is fun working out these little problems in my head --- nice daydreaming..
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Les · Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:41 pm Post subject:

It is looking good so far.

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Minor1PJG · Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:31 pm Post subject:

I know nothing about boats other than this is going to be soooo good!!
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bessytractor · Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:47 pm Post subject:

wow this all looking impressive!

keep up the good work!