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Flieschmann 135/2 - 1956, Restored Photos.
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Les


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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

   
That sure is coming up very nice. If you feel confident about taking it apart then do so but take plenty of pictures so you know how to put it back together again.
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now cleaned up. Time for some pics.

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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That will look just fine sitting next to the Marklin. Great work. Although I have never disassembled one, I have been told that the Fleischmann is a bit trickier than most for reassembly. I do like the Fleischmann engines.
First Rate job, I bet Andrew had a hand in the progress too.
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good cleaning job, the paint looks as good as new...... but you overcleaned the boiler IMHO.
There's not much left of the bluing
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

  Very nice cleaning job, a definite improvement on what you started with.
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Richard and Andrew...wow, you guys have done a great job with the Fleischmann...got a laugh reading the beginning of this thread..YES, plywood and newpaper packing WOULD have given me at least major indigestion if not the big one!!!  Fortunately you have a jewel under the crud and it has come up quite nicely.

Perhaps you will find a Fleischmann wreck that will yield the proper chimney...there seems to be lots of them out there, so chances are good.  As it is a faux chimney that doesn't get hot or pass any steam, you "could" roll a piece of tin to make a proper chimney, then cover it with a brick pattern, perhaps something from a doll house supply source...varnished well it would certainly look the part.

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Dampfzauberer wrote:
Good cleaning job, the paint looks as good as new...... but you overcleaned the boiler IMHO.
There's not much left of the bluing


Those photos were taken at high noon, something I generally don't do, as the overhead sun washes out the color and destroys the contrast.

Life is aways about compromise.  Whilst some of the bluing has gone, the finished piece more closely resembles Photos 2 & 3 than it does 1 and 4.  Sitting on the Dining Room table under artificial light it now looks bluer than in any of these shots.
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I was going to say that I bet that the bright equatorial sun was at least part of the lighter bluing appearance. I am wondering if on mine if some Gun Bluing might touch up the spots around the Safety Valve, Filler, and Whistle where the bluing seems to be its thinest. I just havent tried it yet.

I bet that a piece of sheet metal could be bent to make an Esbit burner for that engine, but it wouldnt take too many firings to empty a box of Esbit. Fire it out doors if you decide to try that as I bet that many Esbits would set off the smoke detectors
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johnreid wrote:
That will look just fine sitting next to the Marklin. Great work. Although I have never disassembled one, I have been told that the Fleischmann is a bit trickier than most for reassembly. I do like the Fleischmann engines.
First Rate job, I bet Andrew had a hand in the progress too.


We did disassemble it. Given the disconnected steam pipe, that was not much of a problem. Every connection is a small screw and nut.

Reassembly is the tricky part.

You have to possess one essential tool.

Andrew.  

Particularly on the Boiler straps and the Gallery mounts you need someone  with small enough fingers to hold the 3/16 " diameter nuts in place at the top of the firebox while you start the screws.  This has to be done with the boiler in place.

I can see why people shy away from this, but when you beget  the right tools,  it's not such a problem.
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IndianaRog wrote:
Richard and Andrew...wow, you guys have done a great job with the Fleischmann...got a laugh reading the beginning of this thread..YES, plywood and newpaper packing WOULD have given me at least major indigestion if not the big one!!!  Fortunately you have a jewel under the crud and it has come up quite nicely.

Perhaps you will find a Fleischmann wreck that will yield the proper chimney...there seems to be lots of them out there, so chances are good.  As it is a faux chimney that doesn't get hot or pass any steam, you "could" roll a piece of tin to make a proper chimney, then cover it with a brick pattern, perhaps something from a doll house supply source...varnished well it would certainly look the part.

Rog


Thanks Rog,

You're right, a chimney would be great, the crowning glory.

I have e mailed the seller about the ladder and burner.  She obviously knows little about steam,  but has great respect for her (late?) Father's interest.

I am extremely pleased with the way this one came out.  When I won it, and even when it arrived I had low expectations.

Andrew helped me every step of the way and remember, it is still less than two days since this arrived.

I'm ecstatic    
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnreid wrote:
I was going to say that I bet that the bright equatorial sun was at least part of the lighter bluing appearance. I am wondering if on mine if some Gun Bluing might touch up the spots around the Safety Valve, Filler, and Whistle where the bluing seems to be its thinest. I just havent tried it yet.

I bet that a piece of sheet metal could be bent to make an Esbit burner for that engine, but it wouldnt take too many firings to empty a box of Esbit. Fire it out doors if you decide to try that as I bet that many Esbits would set off the smoke detectors


OK, I'm from England.  We don't have the right to arm bears, so essential to the American way of life. What, pray, is Gun bluing. Sounds like we might have the clouds silver lining here.

I'm going to use the Marklin burner if it fits.  There is a built in tray under the firebox to accommodate the burner.  It is open to below allowing air to be drawn from underneath the base
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http://www.birchwoodcasey.com/sport/index.html



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[quote="johnreid"]http://www.birchwoodcasey.com/sport/index.html




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Great link John,

I'll have to study it more closely to see what I need..
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I am just wondering of it would work for my needs, I believe that Mirko was using it on one of his engines.
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Richard the cleaned up pics look great.

Well done to you and Andrew
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