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bowman · Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:59 pm Post subject:

I will return soon with some definitive answers on this one!! Have enlisted the help of my vintage train friends!!

sandy

bowman · Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:21 pm Post subject:

Heres some interesting news Pat. This is a reply i got from a VERY respected historian on early toy trains, and i quote.

"Your friend is very lucky. He has the Mark II Bing for Lowke G I North
London Tank Loco introduced in 1909 and sold until c1912. This was
scaled to G II, but only manufactured in G I. According to Ted Leech,
the authority on things like this, 48 were manufactured. Each was
numbered. If you look carefully in the back of the cab (towards the
lower inside left of the cab's backplate) you should find a small
applied disc of tinplate on which its number is stamped, this number
sometimes appears on the frames as well. This one is in very good
condition; one has been ruined (it appears in The Century of Model
Trains), another is a bitsa, and so on... what others there are have
been more or less 'restored'. I only know of one better. I am sure that
we would all be interested to hear what number this one is...if it is 49
Ted will have to reconsider!"

Cheers Sandy

johnreid · Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:35 pm Post subject:

Cool
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dampfmaschinenjoe 1967 · Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:27 pm Post subject:

Didn´t I tell you it was an engine made by BING for Basset - Lowke?

And How rare it is ! ONLY 48 made!
I own three old iron horses for my pleasure,but now i am green with envy !

cheers Joe

Pmackh · Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:34 pm Post subject:

That is so interesting Sandy , I can't wait to get home to have a look for the number, although I don't remember seeing anywhen I was examining it, I will keep you posted

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Pmackh · Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:43 pm Post subject:

Thanks everyone for your help, You really are a great bunch of guys. The number stamped on the Loco is ..................................................................................................................................................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 42 ! I have to say I am pretty chuffed .

So if its so rare, how the hell am i going to get a burner for it ?

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Roly Williams · Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:34 pm Post subject:

Atticman · Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:47 pm Post subject:

That is just sooooo cool isnt it. Years lying unknown, then discovered, one of 48 made. Great stuff all especially Joe and Sandy

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Les · Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:57 pm Post subject:

dampfmaschinenjoe 1967 · Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:51 am Post subject:

I own a classic BING , a Märklin and a Bowman engine !

I will take some pictures of their burners to show how they look like if that will help!

cheers Joe

Pmackh · Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:18 am Post subject:

Cheers Joe,

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bowman · Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:51 am Post subject:

Heres one in gauge 3.....

Pmackh · Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:27 pm Post subject:

That would be great joe , if you wouldnt mind I would Really appreciate it
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bowman · Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:42 am Post subject:

This is my gauge 1 Bing live steam loco. The burner is almost certainly very similar if not the same as the one you need Pat.
cheers Sandy

Pmackh · Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:10 pm Post subject:

That's a beautiful engine ! I don't Know what to do about the burner though. Anyone know who could make one or better still where I could get an original ?
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