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No need to apologize, this is how we all learn things.
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| igy569 wrote: | I checked. Its the Muslim equivalent of the Jewish "Kosher" symbol. Just means that their religious authorities have cleared this food as meeting the requirements of their faith's dietary laws.  |
If this is true I don't see why the food producing companies should have to pay for the priviledge of having that sign on their package. I hate to say it but it suggests that the sign and it's blessing is for sale.
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I know it costs to have Kosher approval, if thee was nobody to enforce it, people could just lie about the content and preparation
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| johnreid wrote: | | I know it costs to have Kosher approval, if thee was nobody to enforce it, people could just lie about the content and preparation |
You got it right in my book Ohnrei,
I work for a food manufacturer...We ( companies) pay for Kosher, Halal, Organic, Vegan, Fairtrade, Shade-grown, HACCP approvals to gain sales to those that are restricted or guided by the things that those approval represent.
Ford splurged and started making cars other than black in the interest to sell more. Different but really the same. The Blue Laws restricting sales in the South were finally repealed to sell more.
Sure "religious "based approvals do add costs and there is a whole theological way to discuss that.
This is all about approvals to gain access to as much of the buying market as possible. No more no less.
This was just my opinion from my stump-- YMMV
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Guys this may close the piece, sorry if any of my comments caused offence---
Dear Mr Walton,
Thank you for your recent enquiry regarding the use of the Halal Certification Authority certification symbol on our products.
Cadbury is proud to make products that can be enjoyed by people of every different race, colour and creed. We are also fiercely proud of being an Australian/New Zealand business whose products are locally manufactured and exported to markets throughout South East Asia.
Because Cadbury Australia & New Zealand Ltd exports a significant amount of its product to markets in South East Asia our export sales are an essential part of business, and crucial to preserving investment and employment at our manufacturing sites in Australia and New Zealand.
One of the main reasons we carry the Halal Certification Authority symbol on our packaging is to ensure that people of Muslim faith, both here in Australia and across our export markets, can identify our products as including ingredients that meet their consumption requirements.
The inclusion of the Halal Certification Authority symbol is not intended to offend any member of the public of any cultural or religious belief; and does not prevent other faiths from being able to purchase and consume our products.
Following a number of consumer inquiries, Cadbury has written formally to the HCAA in order to seek clarification on its business activities. In response, we have received confirmation that HCAA is independently audited by both chartered commercial auditors and the Australian Quarantine and Inspection Service (AQIS), a federal Government agency.
The HCAA has also provided Cadbury with verbal and written assurances that it has never been engaged in supporting religious fanaticism of any kind. As such, Cadbury has total confidence in the HCAA as a reputable organisation, and regards allegations to the contrary as both misguided and false.
As a business, Cadbury was founded upon values of integrity and respect and takes a strong stance against any individual or campaign promoting racism, bigotry and disrespect.
We hope this addresses your question and any concerns you might have. Cadbury produces products that bring joy to millions of people across the world every day, and we’re determined to keep doing that.
If you have any further enquiries please do not hesitate to contact us on 1800 250 260 during business hours.
Kind regards
CADBURY PTY LTD
Tracey
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That is a very well worded letter. It is nice to see that they took your inquirery so seriously and answered it so fully and succinctly. Thumbs up for Tracy 
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Well done Geoff.
Now we all know.
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So it appears that the fees are as innocent as can be and that they are likely just a reasonable stipend to help cover the administarive and monitoring costs. All good when it makes it easier for folks to make an informed decision about what they consume. It is worth the few extra pennies.
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Most manufacturers do not even consider such fees when determining what to charge for a product, such fees are generally considered as part of the general overhead and operating expenses.
THis type pf mark is not only for religious purposes as some marks are for Organic and Gluten Free etc.
A MAJOR big box retailer has been caught in the past for selling products labeled as being Organic etc and then were caught in the lie. It is a good thing that there is a seal of approval from a reputable organization that insures we are getting what we are paying for,
A big "News" Network in the US did a similar thing about the Halal thing a while back. It seems to be great for ratings when people get upset
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| tmuir wrote: | | Now if only that radio DJ that started all this trouble would read that letter on air....... |
Don't count on it, the media thrive on such sensationlism. |
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| johnreid wrote: |
A big "News" Network in the US did a similar thing about the Halal thing a while back. It seems to be great for ratings when people get upset |
And a while back (years) a big news anchor (did somebody say dan rather) broadcast a fabricated story in a feeble attempt to damage a sitting president. The media often does what they want when they want without consideration given to what's right and more importantly to what is true.
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