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Stitch1615
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IMHO.. for what that is worth,,
It's very nice and you don't see many on ebay but,
for something that is basically as dysfunctional as I am, 
whoops,,, UN-functional, it seems to be a tad high.
We're looking at almost $500 for a dust collector.
You can get a real, good old roller for less then that.
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| Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 4:40 pm Post subject: Re: Traction Engine |
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No! You will often find pieces like that on ebay. The seller is either under the misapprehension that anything made of Meccano is worth money or is trying it on. In parts there is less than £10 worth of meccano there in that condition. The model is not a work of art nor is it in tip-top condition.
The Mains motor looks lethal and would not pass inspection being open frame and not covered at all!
As for being rare, that is a bit of a joke. It probably is a one off but it has been built by a private individual to a very, shall we say, average standard using all common parts (from small sets) and the bosses from old brass parts. Although the seller is very careful not to say it is a Meccano made display model, the implication is there. I can assure you that is not a Meccano model-room display model.
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Presumably if you made one out of era parts it wouldn't be worth that or £100... 
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| L E Jay wrote: | | Presumably if you made one out of era parts it wouldn't be worth that or £100... |
Red and green parts like that are sold by weight! They have next to no value. If we had made it, we would not be selling it. It would be dismantled, after it had been to a few shows, and then returned to stock - in that condition, for restoration.
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Ralph is correct. These models are common on ebay and whilst some are better than others, this is not one of them. It is not even consistent in its use of parts from on particular era. There are modern Allen key bolt heads and mutilated parts and blue 3" pulley wheels.
GBP 299 is a joke.
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L E Jay
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Interesting to know. My thoughts were that the value was in the age of the model and I guess the meccano.
I wouldn't have thought making one of those today would be too hard, but what would the value be? Certainly greater than the sum of it's parts. Obviously you'd restore the parts.
Also I did wonder about the value of the gear cutting machine as well, if it proves to work but does not interest me in keep using it.
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L E Jay
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I see. Usually when people are overvaluing steam models they are worth something. These aren't really worth that much then. Never mind, did wonder.
Thanks.
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| DouglasC wrote: | Ralph is correct. These models are common on ebay and whilst some are better than others, this is not one of them. It is not even consistent in its use of parts from on particular era. There are modern Allen key bolt heads and mutilated parts and blue 3" pulley wheels.
GBP 299 is a joke. |
Well playing "spot the Allen key bolts" kept me amused for a few minutes - but they are there. There is also a lot of hexagonal nuts which were introduced in the early 70s so are not consistent with any of the red/green periods.
On its own without those problems the blue pulley would be less of a problem as they did come in towards the end of the red/green era.
If it was a mate offering it to me I might give him a tenner.
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| Ralph Laughton wrote: | | L E Jay wrote: | | Presumably if you made one out of era parts it wouldn't be worth that or £100... |
Red and green parts like that are sold by weight! They have next to no value. If we had made it, we would not be selling it. It would be dismantled, after it had been to a few shows, and then returned to stock - in that condition, for restoration.
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How come I can never persuade Dave to just weigh what he sells me 
All that Ralph has said about this is pretty well spot on. I recently got a set 10 model of a chaseside loading shovel from ebay - built in red/green and from the instruction leaflet given with the sets.
That contains a lot more parts than this thing does, it also has a good condition E20 motor in it and that cost me just over £60 including postage. I'm actually taking it to a local show today as "Meccano modelling the easy way - buy it off ebay!"
At the back of my mind I think it could well be based on a manual model from the 1960s but haven't got time to take a look at the moment.
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chenab
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Hi Ralph,
I know the lifting shovel is a set 10 model - 10.6 - I've got the leaflet in front of me for when I try to get this one running properly.
What I meant was that I have the feeling I've seen the instructions for the traction engine - can't see it in the manuals so maybe it was in the magazine at some time.
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) will mostly sell for a fraction of the cost of buying the parts separately. We paid less than half the value of the parts for this monster... See here: