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sarfraz


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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 11:37 am    Post subject: new arrival - Doll with a few issues Reply with quote

Hi all, won this small Doll steam engine recently. I will update this thread as I go. This should be a great first steam project.

The engine runs, but isn't getting up too sufficient pressure (due too some boiler leaks). Despite this the engine still managed too run well although a bit slow.

I think this model may have had a sight glass in the past, it looks as if there was a problem with it, so they removed it and just placed a water plug there instead. Maybe someone on the forum has one similar too this, any info is greatly appreciated.

Firebox is a bit rusty, which I shall tend too sort shortly. The burner looks homemade as does the funnel, which does not fit.
Nevertheless it's a nice engine.

Anyhow I'm still very happy with it, Pictures below after a light clean







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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am sure that when you remove that horrible scab from the end of the boiler you will find the sight glass holes.
I have a Bing that had a similar modification.
As I see it, it's impossible to effect any repair and maintain the patina.
Once the end is removed you have to descale it then heat it and remove the repair.
Then I heated it repeatedly and wiped the excess solder away with a cloth and then fine steel wool.
After reassembly you may be able to buff away any residual solder.
It took me days.
I had several unkind words for the person who made the initial repair.
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks a bit like my small Doll.

No sight glass on mine. Just a level plug.

Mine was in much worse shape, but with a bit of TLC, it runs very well now.


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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stitch1615 wrote:
I am sure that when you remove that horrible scab from the end of the boiler you will find the sight glass holes.
I have a Bing that had a similar modification.
As I see it, it's impossible to effect any repair and maintain the patina.
Once the end is removed you have to descale it then heat it and remove the repair.
Then I heated it repeatedly and wiped the excess solder away with a cloth and then fine steel wool.
After reassembly you may be able to buff away any residual solder.
It took me days.
I had several unkind words for the person who made the initial repair.


That's actually where its leaking, from that cover over where the sight glass used too be. I'll try my best.
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that will keep you busy abdul......at least you know where bk  lives if all else fails.
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That's actually where its leaking, from that cover over where the sight glass used too be. I'll try my best.


I'm actually still working on mine.
It's all you can do.
It's not like you can go to "End Caps-R-Us" for a new one.
Good luck.
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A proper base repaint and a sight glass repair and you've got yourself an awesome looking Doll.

Are you sure the burner is home built?
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you can frighten it into shape
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stitch1615 wrote:
sarfraz wrote:

That's actually where its leaking, from that cover over where the sight glass used too be. I'll try my best.


I'm actually still working on mine.
It's all you can do.
It's not like you can go to "End Caps-R-Us" for a new one.
Good luck.


we are not End caps-R-Us  but the Elves can make most things
if pressed into service .
The first thing to do is find out has the boiler got a level plug or sight glass.
Both are repairable .1 obviously easier
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I "picked the scab", (that's just gross),  on my boiler I found the sight glass holes.

I plan to remove all the old solder and install new backing plates for the attachment screws.
My plan is a circular plate just short of the inside diameter of the boiler.
I see it as far easier then attaching and holding the small backer plates in place when reattaching the end cap.
I am thinking I'll assemble the entire sight glass prior to trying to fit and solder the end cap.
Then I can remove it and buff the boiler.
Sound workable?

If that fails I have a large hammer and a trash can under my work bench,,,,,,,
Then again,,, there is always eBay and letting someone else have a shot at it.  
Of course I am joking.

Actually I won this engine last year for the WWW Show and I hope to have it done for this years show.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good luck with the restoration.    
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's a nice looking steam plant, Abdul.  Won't take a lot of work to fix it up, but there is a bit to do on it.  
I would find out how the boiler is supposed to look regarding that end cap, and do it up the way it was.
No need to try and preserve the tarnish on it.  Polish it up and a new end cap will look right at home.
The engine itself looks to be in very good shape.  It'll be great!
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scorpion2nz wrote:
Stitch1615 wrote:
sarfraz wrote:

That's actually where its leaking, from that cover over where the sight glass used too be. I'll try my best.


I'm actually still working on mine.
It's all you can do.
It's not like you can go to "End Caps-R-Us" for a new one.
Good luck.


we are not End caps-R-Us  but the Elves can make most things
if pressed into service .
The first thing to do is find out has the boiler got a level plug or sight glass.
Both are repairable .1 obviously easier


Well guys, the plate on the end cap fell off, so I gave both parts a clean, it certainly had a sight glass.



Not sure if the base paint is original, but it looks alright and hasn't come off anywhere. I might repaint it, however undecided as yet.
It's certainly going too keep me busy in my spare time.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice!  Hope you can find a way to fix her up!

Thanks John for the video!  I loved the music in the background!
To see the engine run again was a treat!!
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