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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 5:38 am    Post subject: Visiting Giovanni Reply with quote

Last weekend I went to Torino to visit Giovanni. Marco, a friend of Giovanni's from Florence and also a steam enthusiast was also visiting. We sailed  a small boat that has an unusual boxer engine.
Since the cylinders are 180 degrees opposed the engine does not self start, so it had to be rescued a couple of times.
The small lake lies beneath a demonstration monorail constructed for the Italia 61 expo.
Giovanni's wife cooked wonderful Italian specialties and I we also visited very nice restaurant known for it's Piedmontese cooking.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think some one needs to invest in an electric tug to do the rescuing
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like Giovanni was lucky, a bit more deeper and...  

Nice boat.  
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lovely , thanks for sharing.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I caught this video on Youtube last night!! splendid!!! A metal version of a Seahawk?

The engine is very interesting too- a horizontal opposed twin not 4 cylinder?- scratch made??
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yet another International Forum Meet-up ... truly wonderful!

Thanks for the vid Miles, and for hosting the party there Giovanni!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Miles, nice Celia May made from alloy I may have the drawings for that engine but not the boiler
kind regards frazer
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi Miles, nice Celia May made from alloy I may have the drawings for that engine but not the boiler
kind regards frazer


I'm sure Giovanni will be please to see your identification of the engine do you recall the bore and stroke measurements Frazer?
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Hi Miles, just dug out the drawings Model Boats mag June 1989.
It was based on the Ocle a MAP publication an acronym for open launch engine a single cylinder design. THE heart of the engine is the main bearing  as the crank has the ports cut into it for exhaust and admission.
The bore is 1/2 inch the stroke is 5/8 flat twin. The boiler from what I can remember was a twin drum unit along the lines of the small Stuart Turner.Basil designed the engine as he claimed to copy the original was not very feasable for the amateur to construct.If you ever come across the boiler drawings give me a shout as I want to build a Celia May as Basil designed it. He was one of lifes true gentlemen and always kind enough to answer a then newcomers questions
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The Boiler plans were supposed to be in the July 1989 issue, but the ones that ended up over here were misprinted with pages missing. I wrote to model boats magazine and asked for the complete article but never received a reply. If anyone has the complete articles with the boiler I would like a copy.
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How awesome is that!!!  Italy, sunshine, food wine, friends, and steam!!

Your so lucky!
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Denying Dutchman wrote:
Looks like Giovanni was lucky, a bit more deeper and...  

Nice boat.  


I always carry a fishing rod with me. Saves getting your feet wet.
A rescue tug is a lot more fun.

Metal hulls have always intrigued me but the shape always seems difficult to achieve from a flat sheet.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellequin wrote:
Hi Miles, just dug out the drawings Model Boats mag June 1989.
It was based on the Ocle a MAP publication an acronym for open launch engine a single cylinder design. THE heart of the engine is the main bearing  as the crank has the ports cut into it for exhaust and admission.
The bore is 1/2 inch the stroke is 5/8 flat twin. The boiler from what I can remember was a twin drum unit along the lines of the small Stuart Turner.Basil designed the engine as he claimed to copy the original was not very feasable for the amateur to construct.If you ever come across the boiler drawings give me a shout as I want to build a Celia May as Basil designed it. He was one of lifes true gentlemen and always kind enough to answer a then newcomers questions
kind regards frazer


very interesting Frazer, I will keep an eye out for those boilers plans. the displacement of the engine seemed a little too large for the size of meths burner that we were using, I had expected the boat to travel a little faster. I expect a ceramic gas burner would improve the performance. We had some problems with the RC which turned out to be caused by poor reception since the aerial was inside a metal hull.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This was the maiden trip of this launch.
Aside from the usual weeds-in-the-prop problems, being an all metal launch, we had radio problems, the metal hull acting as a Faraday cage, causing problems with the receiver signal. The problem was overcome with a new external antenna holder machined on purpose.
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The engine is a very interesting one and my first guessing about its rotary valve  (as the Ocle which I had built many years ago) is confirmed by Frazer's comments.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Miles and looks like Giovanni was having fun p to his chest in those waders good job they weren't on the small side or he might of been waterlogged.
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